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Alphagame
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: New method with a pink hat Reply with quote

I haven't tried this yet, but the other night my girlfriend dragged me into the souvenir shop after the Dallas Cowboys game. I was really drunk, and I bought two women's ball caps, white with pink lettering for her and I bought a solid pink one with a blue Dallas Cowboys star for me.

I wore the new pink hat around town and wow! Men are hitting on me. So I'm not wearing this thing around town anymore, that's for sure!

My theory is this: I wear the pink hat to the bars. One look at me in this thing and you KNOW I'm gay. So, I approach the women with "Hey, does this shirt make me look fat?" At some point early on, I figure out who my target is and tell her "If I weren't gay, I'd be SO all over you." I don't think I have to select a target early on. I can talk to the set for a few minutes and determine which one I want. Because I'm faking a disqualifier, being gay, I'm coming in undetected by the ASD shields.

My expectation is to stay in the set as long as I want to. I can develop the rapport. I'm expressing sexual interest in my target under the guise that I'm disqualified. I am guessing they'll open up to conversation pretty easily...kind of like opening up men in a bar. The only reason we get blown out of female sets is because they think we're hitting on them. In my pink hat, they won't suspect it.

Then, after I've got some good rapport with them, I start going into DHV stories about how I almost got arrested for DWI while making out with a girl on a side street in my convertible, and I've got a few others I can drop that include my successes with women.

At some point, she's gonna question me on my sexuality. If she does, I'll take that as an IOI. That's when I escalate KINO big time and explain that I'm not gay. "Did I say I was gay? Because I don't know why the fuck I would've said THAT! It must be this fuckin' pink hat. Do you automatically assume a guy MUST be gay just because he's wearing a pink hat? I bet you're a racist too? (pointing down at the target) Just for the record, NO, I'm not gay. I'm not even a little bi-curious."

I think this may actually have a chance if the skin heads don't drag me out back and beat the shit out of me for fun. My theory on bar pickup is, when you approach a woman in a bar, her ASD shields are in full force. You can't establish any rapport with them because they immediately assume you're expressing sexual interest in them just by the fact that you're initiating conversation with them in a bar. They think we're all just a bunch of creeps who want to fuck them and leave them. The trick is, you MUST establish rapport first, that way, you're not just some creep...you're a real person with emotions and feelings. The problem is, usually, once a guy gets into rapport, it's a major frame change to avoid the friend zone and start expressing sexual interest. It's kind of awkward to express sexual interest after you've built rapport. Think about it: Most of the women you have rapport with, who know you're not a creep...you're just friends with them. Ahhhh, the dreaded friend zone.

I think the fake gayness will bring down the ASD shields and provide time for rapport building. But the beauty of it is, I'm expressing sexual interest BEFORE I build rapport under the guise that I'm disqualified by my gayness. After I feel like there's ample rapport, I'll reveal that I'm not really disqualified by bringing up the fact that I'm NOT gay. But I won't come out and say it...I'll drop clues and make her ask me to bring down my disqualifier. When she asks me if I'm really gay, I think that would count as her qualifying herself to me, wouldn't it?

And if my theory is right, I can easliy approach one all female set right after the other. So I can REALLY play cat string theory AND exhibit pre-selection with EASE if the sets open up and remain open as easily as I think they will. As far as I'm concerned, if you can leave your target and open another all female set and get body language IOI's from them, you're gold with the original target. I think that may be very realistic for a guy who looks openly gay.

Think this has a prayer of success? I've got a lot of optimism on this one. I will field test this and report back.

The problem I foresee is, I am so used to opening the males in the set first. The males are gonna be afraid of the gay guy. Wearing the hat around town, I can see that the male homophobia is gonna prevent them from talking to me like the would normally. I'll have to open the women first, and that's gonna be a real change to get used to.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kind of hat is this? how are you wearing it?

if the rest of your outfit doesn't look gay girls might not think your gay.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a pink ball cap. The fuck me eyes around town with women stop immediately when I wear it. Men hit on me when I wear it. I look in the mirror...fag!

Everything else about me looks totally straight.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not sure how I feel about this. Theres def ways to rock pink and not look gay. I just feel like using the hole im gay thing, and then not being gay to pick up girls is a little lame.

Do gay guys pretend to be straight to pick up other men?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been using the "does this shirt make me look fat" opener in the bars with great success under the guise that I'm 100% straight. It's just an approach that says "I realy don't give a shit about what you think of me and I'm not trying hard". I quickly follow that up with another similar story about how I accidentally walked into the women's restroom recently at a crowded bar. Both of these say "I don't respect you" and "I'm not hitting on you" and they help turn off the ASD shields. I've also used the line "If I weren't gay, I'd be all over you" recently with great success.

Now, the only difference is, I'm adding a pink hat to my routine in hopes of penetrating more ASD shields.

If they want to jump to the wrong conclusions based on the color of my hat...their problem. My entire "routine" will stay pretty much the same.

As you can see, I'll do ANYTHING if it helps me close more deals. Besides, until I field test this, there's no telling if it'll actually work or not. I'm a little nervous about it since the "fuck me" eyes aren't happening when I wear it. It may very well be that women are subconsciosly turned off, sexually, by pink and it won't help. And as for opening up the males of the set, I won't be able to wearing a pink hat. It'll be a completely differint ball game.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has potential, but I could see it going very wrong.
The pink hat already says "gay" to a point; then you're adding "If I wasn't gay, you'd be so mine."

Don't get me wrong, I like your approach with the false disqualifier. But it seems to me that you might be overdoing it. As you said, all of the "fuck me" eyes from the girls vanish and you start getting hit on by guys. With such a homosexually rich approach, you run the risk of turn off some of the other guys in the group who may be homophobic (or uncomfortable to a point), putting a bad taste in the mouth of the group because of social tension. I just think you're digging a "gay" hole for yourself and might end up in the LJBF zone by disqualifying too much.

Bravo for effort but if I were you, I'd choose either:
A) The pink hat & a discreet disqualifier
Or
B)"If I wasn't gay, you'd be so mine."

Good Luck Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My buddy has a solid pink hat (no logos or anything) and no one thinks he's gay, he gets tons of girls hitting on him all the time. Maybe you're just carrying yourself wrong and need to work on body language and the rest of your outfit.

Personally I like wearing a rainbow tuque. I've gotten some great results from it and the only people that make gay comments are insecure guys trying to AMOG me, but that's easily deflected with the right attitude.
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