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oBORNo
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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:06 am Post subject: I'm 25 a vigin never kissed a girl. |
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Hey New to the community. Got introuduced to it by the book the GAME
Then with the show Pickup artist on vh1.
I'm 25 a vigin never kissed a girl. Have very few friends and the ones i do have rarely call me. I Think i'm attractive. I'm tall black
slim and a great digital artist you can see my ART at myspace in my signature below.
girls at time do come over to talk to me ,but It usually ends up in the friend zone with no intrest in contacting me further than the
party were at.
Example of dates i've been on
1) was a puerto rican co worker who i found out later was Pregnant
by another co-worker
2) Was an asian girl who i realized was trying to get me into a pyramid scheme
3) was an asian co-worker who i took to the movies only later in the week
to see her making out with another guy
*I fell that my Hieght (6'6) and being black scares most girls off. (i know this is just a hang up i need to get over)
I very attracted to white asian and non ghetto black women. but they all seem to all go for white guys.
Lack of real friends and no exprience with women leads me to be depressed alot and thoughts of suicide creep up.
It sux And it effects my whole life
I hope i can get help from this new community |
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Mister_GQ
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| its all good bro, im black too, and it is a hang up, but what helps is, make some friends that u can go out and wingman with, and to get over the race thing just dont have any racial based conversations. i wish i was taller, im 5'7 and feel left out that i dont like talkint to taller women, so see ur height as an asset. and to be brutally honest, im not a virgin, but im not good at egetting lucky, but i just joined a frat and got alot better with women. so get to the gym, bulk up and get to reading this shit and watch ur world turn around! |
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BlackBull
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:19 am Post subject: Re: I'm 25 a vigin never kissed a girl. |
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| oBORNo wrote: |
Example of dates i've been on:
1) was a puerto rican co worker who i found out later was Pregnant
by another co-worker |
Ouch.That must have been a suprise...
| Quote: | | 2) Was an asian girl who i realized was trying to get me into a pyramid scheme |
Damn...and a con artist!
| Quote: | 3) was an asian co-worker who i took to the movies only later in the week
to see her making out with another guy |
Oof.Can someone say "whore!"
Damn bro,quite a resume.lol  .
See you had a fair share of scraps and bruises.Guess you know what's up then.Good stuff.
| Quote: | *I fell that my Hieght (6'6) and being black scares most girls off. (i know this is just a hang up i need to get over)
I very attracted to white asian and non ghetto black women. but they all seem to all go for white guys. |
First off,being 6'6 and black is a HUGE FUCKING ADVANTAGE.
You can pull off looking like a pro athelte,which gives you all the more power.
Even then,it's not the case that you scare most girls off.From what you posted,it seems like you have a case of inner game problems(I may be wrong,but this was initial impression).
| Quote: | | Lack of real friends and no exprience with women leads me to be depressed alot and thoughts of suicide creep up. |
Whoa there buddy!
Do remember,that there is more to life than women,and if you're feeling depressed,and a bit suicidal,then you might need more than just PUA skills.
Maybe take up a hobby,get active,do something that ultimately enriches your life.Something to distract you from what you cannot control.
We at the forum are more than willing to help,as long as you are willing to sacrifice and work hard to reach your goals.
With that said,welcome,and I wish you the best of luck in your growth as a PUA. |
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oBORNo
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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thx guys
and thoughts of suicide aren't major ones. i have hobbies like the gym and my artwork. it just seeing other couples you just wonder what your doing wrong.and you just get depressed alot
but thx again and i will try to take this stuff really seriously |
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Mister_GQ
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| oBORNo wrote: | thx guys
and thoughts of suicide aren't major ones. i have hobbies like the gym and my artwork. it just seeing other couples you just wonder what your doing wrong.and you just get depressed alot
but thx again and i will try to take this stuff really seriously |
thats what i used to think but im on the track to being one of "those couples" |
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RawWingman
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| born, all you need to do is keep your head up. You say you go to the gym, there are always HB's there. Art work is good but it is more of a solo hobby, may i suggest some other hobbies that get you out and interacting with people more. Bowling leagues, pool leagues, softball, volleyball, anything athletic. They should all get you out and more interactive with people. I think the more you interact with people the more inner game you will gain. You sound to me a little insecure about some of the things you do, and women pick up on that. To me it also seems as you pick the wrong women to try to date. Chat with them a bit first to learn a bit about them, but dont get to attached. Dont "cling" to them and make them come after you a bit. This site should give you plenty of fuel to light a fire under the woman you want. But it is all about playing and surviving the game. Try reading the MM and apply some of the teachings of the game and the MM to your tactics. Use the catstring phylosophy to "toy with the women" and make them more attracted to you. Let them get close and pull away, and make yourself scarce. Make things happen on your time table, not hers. |
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oBORNo
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: |
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| thx for all the advice whats MM mean by the way |
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RawWingman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| Mystery Method is MM. I would recomend looking up all of the acronyms so you arent lost asking questions like that.. |
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Holden
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Hey man, don't worry about that. I had my V-card till I was 23.
You've got something that no AFC out there has right now, and immediately that makes you better than 70% of other guys: You know what your problem is. Just knowing what your problem is (inner game) is its own tremendous step.
Just head to the Misconceptions and Confidence Building area and get some exercises ideas and your own personal affirmation (i.e. Mine is "I can get any woman in this school/mall/grocery store etc. and these AFC's don't even know that I can, etc.")
Appearance? Man that's the biggest myth out there. But we here know better. Read this for starters:
edit: Dude, I checked your MySpace and your a fuckin' all right lookin' guy that's a fucking Artist! Man develop yourself and you can be a great PUA. |
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Crush
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Hey man,
I'm half black and I had my v-card right up to my 20th birthday. I'm 21 now and my high score is 13. You're just getting a little later start than me, but you have the advantage of being established now and having a wider age range of girls to choose from.
I've been in the community about a month now, and I love it. I invite you to check out my blog, it's loaded with all the notes and resources I've been using.
First thing you need to do... get out there! Sarge!
Good luck! |
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iam fuzz
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Hey... go to the gym. Youll blow up INSTANTLY.
Youre black so you have what i call, steroid blood.
Touch a weight and you instantly become an Arnold 
-fuzz |
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moa4720
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| Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: |
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You look completely normal. And your height is a major advantage. You just need interaction with a lot of women in the friend zone before you even look at this material on the site. Join anything to get friends. Then try this stuff out. For instance I don't think the MM is meant for someone who doesn't have friends.
But I know you can do it. I was in your situation as well (although i'm a white guy 5'11). |
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RawWingman
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| moa4720 wrote: | You look completely normal. And your height is a major advantage. You just need interaction with a lot of women in the friend zone before you even look at this material on the site. Join anything to get friends. Then try this stuff out. For instance I don't think the MM is meant for someone who doesn't have friends.
But I know you can do it. I was in your situation as well (although i'm a white guy 5'11). |
Im sure he has friends. MM is nothing more than the instructional guide to play the game. It isnt a how to in the normal mannor of if you follow these steps you will have this end result everytime, yet it gives you ideas to branch off of. Basic tools to complete your task. I think the V card is something that can work to your advantage, but can not say for 100%. I have a 25yr old friend who is in the same boat, yet he has had one girl he called his g/f, and that is all. It lasted about a week. I am working with him to get him into the field to try and progress his game, but time will tell what works for him and what does not. |
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moa4720
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| RawWingman wrote: | | moa4720 wrote: | You look completely normal. And your height is a major advantage. You just need interaction with a lot of women in the friend zone before you even look at this material on the site. Join anything to get friends. Then try this stuff out. For instance I don't think the MM is meant for someone who doesn't have friends.
But I know you can do it. I was in your situation as well (although i'm a white guy 5'11). |
Im sure he has friends. MM is nothing more than the instructional guide to play the game. It isnt a how to in the normal mannor of if you follow these steps you will have this end result everytime, yet it gives you ideas to branch off of. Basic tools to complete your task. I think the V card is something that can work to your advantage, but can not say for 100%. I have a 25yr old friend who is in the same boat, yet he has had one girl he called his g/f, and that is all. It lasted about a week. I am working with him to get him into the field to try and progress his game, but time will tell what works for him and what does not. |
he said he has very few friends and the one's he has rarely call him. so he practically doesn't have friends. it's very hard to convince a girl of your value when you hold no value to other people you aren't even remotely interested in. i can't see how he could open a group when he can't even keep friends (no offense) |
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Holden
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| Quote: | | he said he has very few friends and the one's he has rarely call him. so he practically doesn't have friends. it's very hard to convince a girl of your value when you hold no value to other people you aren't even remotely interested in. i can't see how he could open a group when he can't even keep friends (no offense) |
I disagree, it just means his personal game at the start is going to rely heavily on establishing a safety set to show Social Proof. It's not a problem, just another challenge he now knows he has to fulfill at the start of every night. And as he progresses, he'll gain progressive Social Proof from previous Sarges. And other Wings when he meets up with AMOG's who are up to snuff.
Remember, we're here to help each other. Not discourage.
He can also check out the 'Meet Up and Wing' section for fellow wings. |
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