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MistaJones
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 Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: Non AFC Way To Call |
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| What's a non AFC way to call a girl and ask her on a second meeting, not sounding like an AFC |
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Sovnarkom
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: |
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Call with lots lots of confidence. it doesnt matter who answers the call just go and doo like this (at least until u find ur own way) :
Hi its [Ur NAme] Is [ Her Name] home? but u got to do it with lots of confidence and kinada of a cocky enthusiasm |
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Dogfish
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| Don't loose that cocky-funny and confidence on the phone. You have to continue that up, that's why she gave you her number right? Instead of asking, Hey, can we go out some time? You tell her, Hey, we should go out some time. Make it a statement of fact. And if/when she comes back with the "Oh, really?" Perfect time for a cocky funny come back. |
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Social
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: Simple |
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| When calling for the first time convince yourself that you're calling an old friend. It really helps if you do this because it takes that fear away, the nervousness in your voice disappears and words come out with ease. Make the conversation short, establish that early with time constraints. If it's a "date" you're aiming for make it casual, as if it is not a date at all, more like to friends setting up a cool lunch or bar thing. It works every time with out fail for my buddies and myself. |
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Cutter
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the technique that I've been using with regular success is to make the 1st call is one which does NOT include a request for a 2nd meeting. This confuses her. Dissappoints her. And allows you to remain the prize. Now if you are going to do this be sure to DHV enough during the call that you can ensure that she is really hoping for a return call. Use negs at your own discretion.
So I usually call 36ish hours after I get a number & talk about cool stuff I've done or am doing. I mention something cool involving me and a large group of friends (social proof). I make sure to restablish some of the connection that occured on our 1st meet. When I think she's wanting to be asked out, I make an excuse to get off the phone. I may or may not make reference to the next call. "I'll try to call you later if I can"
On 2nd call I keep it short and sweet. Hey since you've been cool so far and it looks like we might have a few things to talk about, why don't you come over and we'll get some sushi or something.
Later,
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Romeo7
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Hehe
Cutter, you have been improving man... good job
It's my turn to write now, and when I read this, I thought it was something good to post about
So, just like the initial approach, asking for the number or going for the kiss, the first call causes anxiety,
Yup, yup, who hasnt gone through that?
I remember back in the days, there were times that I would stay on the phone with anyone (guy or girl) without saying a word, I was BORING, i felt compromised to stay there, 'till the other person hung up, it was silent, it was uncomfortable, now im a PUA, and no need to feel that way anymore.
Getting back to the topic,
You call her and you hope that she picks up, you hope that she even gave you the right number, you hope that if you ever made an emotional connection, that connection is still alive, and that sooner than later, you and her will connect sexually.
Probably very few of you know this, but I wasnt introduced to the seduction scene by The Game, I was introduced by David D, and one of the very first things I learned from him was this:
INSTEAD OF FINDING THE SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM... TRY PREVENTING THAT PROBLEM
Of course, it all clicked when I internalized these words, not my parents, teachers or any friends taught me this, it was eye opening
so, let's apply that david d's wisdom here
There is two things I would do (and recommend) so that you get NO FLAKES and also KILL THAT FIRST CALL ANXIETY
1. Leave her wanting more
If you give/tell everything about you, then you stop being interesting, and of course she won't wanna see you again, that's why you INTRIGUE, if you don't know how to intrigue, then you need to go back to the basics,
when you leave her wanting more, of course she won't flake on you. Added to this, there is establishment of rapport and why not, sexual arousal, which is not necesarily touch, I would say most women LOVE intellectual men, others love alpha males, other athletes.
2. Use this lil trick
As soon as you get her number, call her right in the moment, and make her pickup, right there in front of you.
Once she picks up, you walk away just a lil bit and roleplay, like this
YOU: Hey! whatz up? long time no talk, guess what????
SHE: what?
YOU: I met this really cooool girl today, she's cute, and why not, somewhat weird... but still cute
SHE: HAHAH blah blah
YOU: ok, see ya,,, (hug)
and there goes your first call on the phone
next time when you call her, it would be like she's known you forever
Get this down |
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iocus
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| Love number 2, Romeo, that's brilliant. Great way to make sure she has your number, too. But why walk away? Surely you could make it way more fun if she could see your facial expressions. "I just met this girl, she's... [pause, and slightly disgusted facial expression]... she's ok, I guess. Lucky she has a good personality." Then smile cheekily at her. |
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Romeo7
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I get you
i didnt mean walk far away, walk away maybe a couple of steps
facing her |
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Romeo7
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I just re-read what I posted before and I forgot to mention some part of that routine
After you tell her you met a cute girl today (her)
You asked, "what about you, did you meet anyone today?"
Most likely, she will say, "yeah, this guy who is blah blah"
Then you go C&F "You lucky girl, I bet he is pretty good looking and fun, I bet you wanna see him again, and take him out to eat"
She will laugh
then you hang up
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SilverSeraphim
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Pure genius:
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2. Use this lil trick
As soon as you get her number, call her right in the moment, and make her pickup, right there in front of you.
Once she picks up, you walk away just a lil bit and roleplay, like this
YOU: Hey! whatz up? long time no talk, guess what????
SHE: what?
YOU: I met this really cooool girl today, she's cute, and why not, somewhat weird... but still cute
SHE: HAHAH blah blah
YOU: ok, see ya,,, (hug)
and there goes your first call on the phone
next time when you call her, it would be like she's known you forever
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Definitely gonna give that a try.
I also really like the trick Cutter mentioned:
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So I usually call 36ish hours after I get a number & talk about cool stuff I've done or am doing. I mention something cool involving me and a large group of friends (social proof). I make sure to restablish some of the connection that occured on our 1st meet. When I think she's wanting to be asked out, I make an excuse to get off the phone. I may or may not make reference to the next call. "I'll try to call you later if I can"
On 2nd call I keep it short and sweet. Hey since you've been cool so far and it looks like we might have a few things to talk about, why don't you come over and we'll get some sushi or something.
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