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Descartes PUA Forum Enthusiast
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: some openers i came up with |
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first opener, for when you see a girl eyeing you or smiling at you, or walking by and doing this
be like
me: do i know you?/ who are you?
girl: no/why?
me: because you were staring/ smiling at me, are you a stalker? (stalker line optional)
girl:sorry no (hopefully laughs)
me: its ok, i'll forgive you if you give me your opinion on...............fill in (or if youre at a bar, if you buy me a drink - altho it may be too early to pull that...)
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ok another one...if youre in LA, ask whats a better city, LA oR NY... or LA or OC, if youre in OC ask the same. if youre in NY ask about london or LA, and you can use this as a a way to DHV yourself and talk about the places youve been to..
you can also talk about stuff in those places (esp if youve been there) which is more DHV and very interesting
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ask girls opinion on what they think is better, myspace or facebook...
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if you see an indie rock or punk rock chick --> hey i need an indie rocker/punk girl/ or neither of these/ opinion... WHO do u think would win in a fight... green day or indie guys
girls: totally these guys
me: yeah right green day would rock them!
and continue, maybe transition into music or another opener
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same thing but ask frat guys or jocks, if its college girls |
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xxIcexx PUA Forum Leader
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Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| go for it and let us know if it works...i personally hate opinion things because its getting too mainstream |
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Mr Fahrenheit PUA Forum Addict
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| ick, when I see pickup transcripts with opinion openers it just makes me feel awkward. A person who can make an opinion opener seem sincere is very skilled. More than 90% of people who use them suck at them. It makes it less artful and so clumsy. Just dont like how everyone uses them. |
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honestforlife New to PUA Forum
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Opinion openers are great in the right situation - e.g. in a mall searching for clothes! "Do you think this <...> fits to my trousers (or similar)?... Why don't you prefer the <...> stuff like most women do?" |
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TurkoLoco New to PUA Forum
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Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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The first opener you've listed might come in handy for me, I fall in to that situation a lot where a girl constantly checks me out, and I just end up not knowing which opener to use, but the first opener kind of busts on them straight away, and if you add a little smirk to it when you say are you stalker? It'll most certainly get a luagh out of it  |
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silvertongue New to PUA Forum
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I think it's natural that opinion openers became mainstreem. THEY WORK!!! But I agree that if you can get by with out them then your much more skilled and will run less risk of happening upon a girl who's heard your opener |
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sL!CK PUA Forum Addict
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I like the first one.
I might turn it into a joke at the end though.
maybe something like: "well that's ok, I forgive you. You're kinda cute. I don't mind having a cute stalker. It's the ugly ones that are really stalkers, cute ones we just call admirerers."
I might go into a story about my friend who called me the other day and told me that he just realized that ugly people have shorter lifespans than pretty people do. He said he got that idea while he was driving in front of the mall and he was checking out this really got girl. She turned around and screamed at him. Apparently he was just about to run over some ugly chick!  |
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livestrong20 PUA Forum Enthusiast
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| sL!CK wrote: | I like the first one.
I might turn it into a joke at the end though.
maybe something like: "well that's ok, I forgive you. You're kinda cute. I don't mind having a cute stalker. It's the ugly ones that are really stalkers, cute ones we just call admirerers."
I might go into a story about my friend who called me the other day and told me that he just realized that ugly people have shorter lifespans than pretty people do. He said he got that idea while he was driving in front of the mall and he was checking out this really got girl. She turned around and screamed at him. Apparently he was just about to run over some ugly chick!  |
Some of yours feels like a DLV to me, The first part is ok though |
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TommyD New to PUA Forum
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| silvertongue wrote: | | Well, I think it's natural that opinion openers became mainstreem. THEY WORK!!! |
I agree with this, i think if you spend too much time on a particular opener then its going to be harder for others to understand.
I try and stick to the basics and then when i've hit my target goal then i attempt some complicated openers and stories. |
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Eekangorf Member of PUA Forum
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Opinion questions tend to work well in bars/clubs so long as you approach at least a 2set or higher |
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samcroon New to PUA Forum
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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| TurkoLoco wrote: | The first opener you've listed might come in handy for me, I fall in to that situation a lot where a girl constantly checks me out, and I just end up not knowing which opener to use, but the first opener kind of busts on them straight away, and if you add a little smirk to it when you say are you stalker? It'll most certainly get a luagh out of it  |
when a girl is checking u out, then u dont need to have an opener... ure allready in a non-speaking conversation.. u only have to approach, and u can start with the box routine as example...
getting tho that box routine is easy. just improvice. |
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rott New to PUA Forum
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:35 am Post subject: |
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| Opinion openers are overused. Keep away from them - the bar has been raised in C+F, so get to work. |
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Devious PUA Forum Enthusiast
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:38 am Post subject: |
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I don't really like the first opener. The stalker part actually seems like the best part about it, but only if you make a good joke of it.
Generally, though, if you already got eye contact and a smile from her, why not open direct? Don't go into an opinion opener though... |
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land mark New to PUA Forum
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:26 am Post subject: |
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using the pre opener if she stares at you i think is gold.
you then have already broken the barrier with sonmething which is generic and streight (not much room to varey responses), and you have the oppotunity of calabrate whether her responses are strong enough to use an opinion opener on her which will improve your chances on her hooking.
im going to try this aswell.....its all about testing.... |
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HotIce Member of PUA Forum
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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the stalker opener had VERY limited uses. Only use it if she's checking you out or if she bumps into you.
Opinion openers are good on 2-sets or 3-sets, because then you can chuck out some negs and do the best friends test. They're less good with lone girls, who usually have lower energy and think you're trying to sell them something.
For lone girls, do a SUBTLE situational opener, such as "what are you drinking" and escalate from there. |
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