Using NLP to cure AA

butterfield · Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 10:05 pm Post subject: Using NLP to cure AA

Are there any ways? how do they work?

The Big Bad Wolf · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:07 am Post subject:

Look up Hypnotica's material.
He has a good lot for inner game, and effective counter-AA material.

MattJacks · Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:50 am Post subject:

im just starting out with nlp. it says that it can help change these things. hypnosis is a form a nlp and that helps allot of people in heaps of ways.

Facher · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:32 am Post subject:

Re-framing is a technique within NLP, that can help you.

AA? Why do you think you have it?
What do you think will happen if you just do it?
Do you think that everyone that did this got ?
How will your life be like if you continue to have this fear of getting ?

Now, AA is partially physical, and partially mental. The mental part is "she will tell me to fuck off", the physical is adrenaline. One of them can be cured with NLP.. the other not.

For the adrenaline I recommend disassociating with the situation. Know that you will approach, but don't think of it (hard if you can't keep your mind totally clear for extended periods of time). Also, you could mentally limit yourself to help battle AA. I.e. "I will not pick her up, I will only ask her about this one opinion, then I'm out". Of course, you stay in set.

This works for me, dunno about you guys.

brappbrapp · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: .

unstoppable confidence by ross jeffries and some of hypnotica's stuff is useful

Devious · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject:

Belief change! You can use presuppositions and reframing to alter your beliefs. Generally, you do this by asking yourself questions that steer you away from your old belief, and towards one that would be more useful. The following are some good questions for changing beliefs.

How would I know if this belief weren't true?
What is the positive intent of this belief?
What if this belief weren't true?

For the sake of this post, I will assume that AA can be summed up by the belief "Talking to strangers will cause me to be nervous". The questions and answers below are one possible train of thought towards overcoming AA.

How do I know, right now, that I will be nervous?
because whenever I approach, I feel shaky, scared, etc.
What is the positive intent of this belief?
it prevents me from getting rejected because I don't open
How have I perceived my nervousness as having limited me until now?
it kept me from going after opportunities to meet new people
How would I know if this belief weren't true?
I would feel excited about talking to strangers
What if I could be excited about opening without fearing rejection?
I would be very outgoing and friendly to everyone

The third question is my favorite--it presupposes that you are overcoming AA by stating it as a past occurrence.

Affirmations are also a great tool. An obvious one for AA would be "I am confident when I talk to strangers". However, it has been my experience that the more an affirmation conflicts with your current belief, the longer it will take to internalize. You might try the more subtle affirmations "I can allow myself to feel uncomfortable when I talk to someone I haven't met" and "I don't have to feel confident when I meet someone for the first time". Neither are perfect, I admit, but both presuppose that you will open. Also, the former suggests that feeling uncomfortable is a choice (you might not be uncomfortable), and the latter suggests that you might be confident (the subconscious doesn't grasp negatives very well).

GamblerPUATraining · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 11:04 pm Post subject:

Some good stuff! Here's something to try...

When you visualise an approach and feel anxiety you can describe the qualities associated with this visualisation:
still/movie
colour/black&white
location in space
size
audio? or no
Associated or disassociated?
border or no border
3d or flat

etc

Then you imagine a situation where you had the emotion/state that you'd like to have - unbreakable confidence, "in the zone", whatever it might be. You'll notice that this visualisation has very different qualities attached.

To complete the process just take the visualised AA situation and move it into the one where you feel great. You'll notice that you don't feel AA and feel good with the visualisation now.

When you are in the real situation next time, you can try and influence your thought process so that you can short-circuit any negativity.

My most confident state has me disassociated which I thought was pretty cool.

Hope this helps.

Azztech · Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:57 am Post subject:

(Gambler on this foum? That is so cool... )

Is it AA you're feeling? Or a Fear of Rejection?

You'll feel AA for the first few times you make an approach, perhaps because you havn't done it before. Uncharted territory for your sub concious, who just wants to keep you safe in your comfort zone, so he makes you scared so that you'll stay there.

Fear of Rejection is different, Invest in Hypnotica's Collection of Confidence, after a simple excersise, I took the hypnosis part and he took me back to a time when I was first rejected in this way

1) I was treated as inferior when I was young and have been that way because of it ever since (Bizarre, but that's where it came from!)

2) I was called a 'weirdo' alot when I was young due to my social anxieties and how I hid them (Cut off the root and the weed dies)

3) I lost alot of friends and respect in school because I was rejected in front of everyone. (Now, I only fear groups because I've never opened one before)

No such thing as rejection anyway, theyre not rejecting YOU they're rejecting an idea, or their perception of you. They simply made a mistake.

You can always anchor a pleasant feeling to overcome your AA.

trapmasta · Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:09 pm Post subject:

i googled AA and instead of alcoholics anonymous i got this

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