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Waffle
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 Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: My 2nd Hooters experience |
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Okay, so a buddy and I went to buy fireworks at some wholesale fireworks warehouse and decided to stop in at Hooters on the way back. We get there and our waitress comes up and takes our orders, so I look at her and say...
Me- Hey, are you our waitress or some nice girl who wants to bring us food and drinks?
Her- I'm just the nice girl bringing you food and drinks.
Me- Thats so cool!
----Go up for a high five and I move my hand out of the way and go back to my food.
Her-You're mean!!!! (playfully hitting me and smiling.)
Me- Yes... I am. 
--Little later
Me- Hey, you're gonna play a quick game with me.
Her- Okay
Me- Have you ever played 5 Lies? (Run that perfectly)
--Little later
Me- I'll make a bett with you.
Her- What's that?
Me- I'll bet you five dollars that I can poke my head through my fingers without breaking grip.
Her- Okay... wait, which head!!!!!????
Me- The one attached to my neck. I knew you were a dirtyy girl. 
--So I run that and she welches on the bet; I neg her for that.
--I did screw up ESP
So I'm about to leave. I did do some kino before this, so I touch her on the arm and talk to her to try to close.
Her- Sorry, I can't give you my number...the managers will get on to me. But are you going to be in the area later?
Me- Nope, hadn't planned on it yet.
--So I leave my number for her. (Broke my own rule.)
--I think I got enough IOI's, but I still haven't gotten a call, so I could be wrong. I got a lot of smiles as I kind of ignored her when I was done playing.
By all means, let me know what you think. I'm just proud of myself for not fucking it up because I was actually concious of what I was doing.  |
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Roads
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Me- I'll bet you five dollars that I can poke my head through my fingers without breaking grip.
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Ok you got me, how do you do that? And I mean with your noggin, not your penis. I'll give you a detailed breakdown of your FR if you can make me understand the trick, cause it sounds like something I could use twice on a chick (once during A2 and once during S2). |
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Waffle
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Roads wrote: | | Quote: | Me- I'll bet you five dollars that I can poke my head through my fingers without breaking grip.
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Ok you got me, how do you do that? And I mean with your noggin, not your penis. I'll give you a detailed breakdown of your FR if you can make me understand the trick, cause it sounds like something I could use twice on a chick (once during A2 and once during S2). |
Touch your index finger and your thumb together like a circle. Then place the circle on top of your head with your other hand wrapped around your wrist like you are about to force your skull through the circle. Count 1...2...3... Let go of your wrist with the circle still on your head and poke your head with your other index finger. You are now poking your head through the loop without breaking your grip. |
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Roads
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: My 2nd Hooters experience |
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LOL! That's an awesome trick! Can't wait to use it. Ooooh tingly...
Anyway, here's what I think:
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Me- Hey, are you our waitress or some nice girl who wants to bring us food and drinks?
Her- I'm just the nice girl bringing you food and drinks. |
She knew you were hitting on her when you threw that line out there at her. She didn't seem to mind, which is a good sign. Either you were the first one that day to come up with something witty to say to her (most guys hitting on waitresses are less...subtle) and thus immediately DHV'd yourself, or she was just being a friendly waitress.
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Me- Thats so cool!
----Go up for a high five and I move my hand out of the way and go back to my food.
Her-You're mean!!!! (playfully hitting me and smiling.)
Me- Yes... I am. |
Nice little push pull. The kino initiation on her half indicates she's amused and mildly attracted.
| Quote: | --Little later
Me- Hey, you're gonna play a quick game with me.
Her- Okay
Me- Have you ever played 5 Lies? (Run that perfectly) |
DHV again, well done. Compliance on her behalf too. Good job.
| Quote: | --Little later
Me- I'll make a bett with you.
Her- What's that?
Me- I'll bet you five dollars that I can poke my head through my fingers without breaking grip.
Her- Okay... wait, which head!!!!!????
Me- The one attached to my neck. I knew you were a dirtyy girl.
--So I run that and she welches on the bet; I neg her for that. |
She did not show compliance there, which is understandable, but ideally you would have tested her again for compliance after the neg. The neg knocks them down a notch and makes them more susceptible to your suggestions, and you could have tried to number close her there. Her manager might be watching so do the "us against the world routine" and have her whisper her digits into your ear or something.
She did however choose to take the sexual innuendo you hid in that routine. Which means she's interested, or at the very least flirting. This is an IOI.
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--I did screw up ESP |
Ok it's hard but resist the temptation to unload all of your PUA tricks at once, not only does it not leave you with much in the bag for the second and third dates, it also creates the "Dancing Monkey" syndrome. You're fun, you're entertaining, you're also putting a lot of effort in doing stuff to amuse her. Enough, now's her time to amuse you. This is where you get her to qualify herself to you. Fair's fair, let her show you some bar tricks she's learned.
| Quote: | So I'm about to leave. I did do some kino before this, so I touch her on the arm and talk to her to try to close.
Her- Sorry, I can't give you my number...the managers will get on to me. But are you going to be in the area later?
Me- Nope, hadn't planned on it yet.
--So I leave my number for her. (Broke my own rule.)
--I think I got enough IOI's, but I still haven't gotten a call, so I could be wrong. I got a lot of smiles as I kind of ignored her when I was done playing. |
This is the second best outcome. The first of course is to number close her. Be persistent, neg and try the "us against the world" thing again. In fact in sarging waitresses and hired guns, try to get that spin in as soon as you can. The conspiratorial hook is deadly, they will break rules for you.
In all honesty, she will probably not call you. Not unless you were the most interesting guy she met that week. It's usually up to the man to make the first call. Then again, if she's really interested as her words seem to suggest (asked you about a possible alternate time bridge on her own, always a big IOI), you could scoop her up handily by going back in a few days. She'll be more comfortable then, enough to break the rules for you by writing her number down on the back of your check or on a napkin.
Oh, don't wait too long or she will forget the encounter. The feelings might stay a little longer (as much as a few weeks) but she will forget your conversation and other little details, and you'll basically have to repeat your performance to get her to reassociate those emotions back to you. |
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| I'm not so sure if this information may be useful but Hooters is similar to strip clubs. My friend works at a Hooters and they constantly tell her to flirt with the customer. One of their requirements is to write Thanks with a heart next to it on their checks. |
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Waffle
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, I thought of that, but I decided to bust her chops early because of it. That really is something I considered, but I thought it was good practice anyway...she wasn't that good of a flirt. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Persistence most certainly would have benefited you there. Not being persistent = failing a shit test.
She could have just been testing to see if you were man enough to persist by throwing out a logistical issue (the manager thing), and giving her your number meant failing.
If I were in your shoes, I would've just handed her a napkin with my order and told her to bring the napkin back with her number on it when she brought the food. It would have created a "me and you versus the world" conspiracy theory kind of attitude. Well, "you and her versus the manager," at least.
(OK, I just read Roads's post about the same thing. Damn, he beat me to it lol) |
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| Well, what do you guys mean by "us against the world"? How would that be accompished? |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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"Us against the world" basically sums up the right perspective of this entire game that we're all studying and practicing. You and the girl are on the same team and you both want the same thing.
The conspiracy theory aspect comes into play when you turn "us against the world" into more of a playful role-playing situation, such as framing the manager as the bad guy who won't let his minions have any fun, and that you're here to secretly plot her escape from boredom or whatever. |
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