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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Opening to Waitress Reply with quote

One thing that I've been trying lately is hitting on those teen waitresses (I'm in high school, it's okay Very Happy ) and I'm just wondering, since a lot of these girls will probably be creeped out easily, what are some good openers?

If you know any good openers or conversation starters (anything that will demonstrate interest) for a completely random waitress WITHOUT insulting or negging at all, I would really appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not start with "what would you suggest?"

from there try ESP on her saying that usually what people pick can give away alot about them etc. You get the idea there.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm... i like the suggestion... I'll look into it.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im reading the game right now and theres a good example of how to do this. Im not going to get too into to it cause im too lazy but read that book, its good. But its something like, when the waitress comes, be in deep convo with your friend and ignore her for a second. then say, "hello, iv never seen you hear before. whats your name? blah blah. when she comes back with your drinks, say somehting like, "you again, gee you really like hanging around us dont you?" blah blah you get the jist.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a PUA newbie, but here is my suggestion

1. first of all show of that you have some DHV and social profe by talking to your friends. Then you don't come off as he creepy guy sitting all alone talking to the waitresses.

2. Wait for her to take your order or something "if she writes in a notebook" And ask her if you can look at it for a moment. Then just say some rubbish about how handwriting it supposed to say alot about a person. And maybe say something about hers (just make it up, like if the letters are close together say that she is a very organized person" If she starts to ask more advanced questions either say "Sorry i normally charge money for this (might be a problem with your age) or like "Sorry i just started reading a book about hadnwriting and wanted to try it out" Don't talk for very long, just to get her insdie your world 30 sec-1.5 mins

3. Be cockyfunny. (important: Always be cockyfunny with a smile on your lips or it backfires and you become mean) It is a very good tactic. When she comes back with your drinks/meal etc say like "I told you i take money for this"///" No not you again, you can't stay away from me can you"?/// I love how you wrinkle your nose when you smile (neg)

4. Ask her something like "Hey, me and my friends were going for tacos some day this week. Do you know any good place that sells tacos etc? (Change tacos to whatever) But don't invite her just yet

5. Now you need to make her come back to you since she prolly ordinary wouldn't do this due to other customers etc. wave to her to come to you, then do some fast test. Like "Guess the number" "5 questions game" "Dental floss opener" "If she have more time, try the cube test"
Should be able to find all these on these forums or Utube. Now it has been liek 10 misn since the tacos question. Tell her she is a sweatheart and that she should totally come with you and have tacos some day when she is off from work. (if she agress or atleast ain't reluctant to it) Write down your number on half a peice of paper, rip of that other half and give it to her with the pen. Now she will understand that she has to write her number on that peice of paper in order to get the phonenumber you got in your hand. when she has doen so, exchange the numbers and BAM you can totaly call her over to the next party or somethign you are going to.

6. call/text her 1-2 days later and tell her the tacos did/didn't happen, but she is welcoemd to this party you are going to ...Meh....You understand... I am jsut bored and wants soemthing to write.... Damn nightshift...

sorry for all the grammar/spelling errors. English ain't my native tongue and I am in a bit of a hurry

/Chris T
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a standard waitress routine I tell people to use. You don't have to open a waitress, she opens you.

1) Opinion on what to eat.
2) Tease her about her choice and make her walk through your options while making her have fun doing it.
*She leaves*
3) DHV and try to flip attraction switches naturally. (Complain about the service, say if your meal sucks your tip will suffer. Just whatever you can pull off.
4) Do a Bait/Hook/Reel/Release. If it works, go to next step. If not, keep DHVing and stuff and try again.
*She leaves*
5) Get her to write her number on the receipt. If its an Asian restaurant, tell her "Guess what my fortune says? I'm going to get *her name* number today" if you want.


This has helped a number of people I know. Good luck.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

one time i just asked a waitress out on a date and she said yes and i got her number. sometimes being straight forward helps.

if u dont wanna be straight forward then hassle her in a good way. make sure to smile. DONT COME OFF AS A DICK! come off as a guy thats trying to allow her to have fun. read THE GAME too. it helps alot.

u just have to lean back and look like u are having a good time eating there. simple conversation can work "how is work for you today?" "how long have u been working here"

I especially like using this one. in a joking way you can say "so what on the menu can u give me for free?" she will usually laugh at this and u might even end up with a free appetizer or dessert or something. from there just keep joking with her.

hope this helps
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've used this number-close on a few waitresses and it works each time. Obviously, there needs to be some game played throughout the meal, you can't just up and throw this out there. I C&F tell them before they go get the reciepts that there had better not be any extra ink on mine. If they don't seem to be picking up what I'm putting down, I'll calmly reiterate and go on talking to my friends. Like if I pay with the credit card and they have to go print off the next reciept, I'll that little line in there with a smile on my face and they come back kind of shy with the new reciept, complete with name and number. It's great when you go out with friends somewhere, you all get seperate checks, and yours takes a bit longer because of this!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:36 am    Post subject: alone? Reply with quote

what if I am alone, how can I DHV or at least shake the "creepy guy" thing? I usually get up pretty early and have a nice breakfast before the world wakes up Smile How can I salvage that kind of situation?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't seem creepy if you don't convey yourself as such. But if your self conscious, a girl will know.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont mean to thread jack but since im a forum newb i cant post a new thread in certain sections...
so ive gone to this restaurant a few times and gotten the attention of a girl i went to school with who is recently married but she has been showing some definate IOI's and i was gaming her the whole time but i need help on my next move.
so my friend is trying to hook up with one of the other waitresses and ive just been there seemingly to eat dinner with him and be a friend but ive been going for the other waitress the whole time. we were all hanging out fater they closed and this girl was practically sitting on top of me in the booth. and said she doesnt have a boyfriend(made no attempt to clarify she's married)
personally i dont know the husband but i hear he's an ass anyways so i dont care. but i know i will probably see her tomorrow night and i know i need to number close this time or time bridge but any pointers are welcome
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ambassador:

Watch for being creepy, obviously it is a deal breaker. If you are confident you shouldnt be perceived as creepy.

Please understand that techniques and routines are INCREDIBLY similar in any venue or environment (one which makes you creepy in one will make you creepy in any other).

If you havent read The Game by Neil Strauss, please stop reading my post and go purchase it immediatly.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oddly enough, guys who are hyper concerned about being seen as creepy, tend to come across as the creepiest. Telling yourself to not be creepy is like telling yourself not to think about elephants. Don't waste your mind on thinking about the different ways you might screw up. Listend to some of the more experienced PUA's on here and spend some time relearning the basics. If you were a waiter, would you want a sexy woman to ask you out while you were working? Hell yeah!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: alone? Reply with quote

TheAmbassador wrote:
what if I am alone, how can I DHV or at least shake the "creepy guy" thing? I usually get up pretty early and have a nice breakfast before the world wakes up Smile How can I salvage that kind of situation?


If you're too concience about it, then find a way (DHV story or something) to cleverly mention that all your friends are nightowls. And that you like waking up very early, to enjoy the fresh morning air, start the day off early and get your mind and thoughts going....

Or something similar.
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