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cranberry sauce
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 Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: confusion...is it easier to talk to girls than gents? |
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As a male I have come to a possible conclusion that socializing with females is easier than socializing with males. Can anyone concur?
I'll draw out a timeline to illustrate my idea:
-Elementary school: Typical friends come over and hang out, play sports. Talking to girls is sort of wierd.
-Middle school: Typical friends come over and hang out, play sports; yet a more complex social system since elementary days. Talking to girls is no longer wierd...for the most part.
-Beginning High school: Group of bros chill and have fun. Socializing is still pretty smooth, but gets a quite a bit more complex, making it more difficult to make new male friends. Some social barriers include: clicks, interests, classes, girlfriends, ect. As for talking to girls...A new light is showing. Many will explore, few will conquer. This means, high school is a time where talking to girls is super complex, often leading to awkwardness and embarrassment. It's a fucking challenge.
-Ending High school: Group of bros is thinning. Intervals of hang out sessions are widening. Keeping up conversation is getting more difficult. Talking to girls is improving vastly...smoothness and sex appeal begin to open up.
-College: Group of bros is dead. Intervals of hang out sessions are all the time except holidays. Having convos with your bro friends has never been so uneasy. Chatting it up with a lovely female or 2 is now a breeze and a pleasure.
These are my experiences which lead to my theory.
When a boy gains maturity, he will change. I'm not talking about puberty, I'm talking about maturity. This is the transformation from boy to man. This means being noble, sincere, ethical, respectful, ect. This newfound maturity also means being confident. Because after all, when man is truly ethical, he will have confidence in social situations. This maturity will lead to a complex system of social interactions with other males...Yea, think about how easy it was to make friendly with other kids in the middle school elementary era. That's done for now...because you are man, and you follow a code of conduct. Lastly, most important to this forum is social interaction with the female gender....
Man can more easily talk to chicks now. Why? Multiple reasons. His new manhood brings in confidence. Also, because chicks aren't guys...there's no code of conduct to be had with them. Truth: it is good to be ethical with women, it will win you their trust. Even so, there's no boundaries. You can say your fucking stupid ass jokes that would make you look like a tool otherwise. You can act in virtually any way to interest the girl. You can play your game, and have fun with it. You can even touch them and make them make noises. You can talk to them about feelings...THERE are no limits dude. You can be your actual self, and they'll eat that shit up. I'm gonna end it there, but I'm gonna throw in a little alternative conclusion, separate from this part.
On a side note: This will sound completely sexist, but here goes...
Women will never achieve that sort of wisdomatic manhood which a man can achieve. When talking with a girl, we really don't care what she thinks. Because what she thinks, is irrelevant...for the most part. So put yourself out there. Cuz at the end of the day; you're not a chick.
I know, this sounds sexist. It's not even my opinion...well not really anyways, maybe a bit. It's just a thought.
I hope this makes sense. |
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c_n12
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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VERY WELL SAID! I truly applaud you for this post!
This is one of the truest posts that I have read on this site from someone who obviously hasn't allowed the fiancially obsessed gurus to brainwash them and I think this is something commuinty really needs to understand; women are far easier to talk to than guys and it doesn't really matter what you say to them as long as you know how to be congruent and present yourself confidently. This is where the ethics of using the decietful Mystery Method clashes with the direct philosophies of being able to express your real self in a way women respect that allows you to not have to worry about what they think and not have to analyze every move you make to keep up the image of a person who not you. When people realize this they no longer need to clone someone else's personality or behavior to attract women and it becomes second nature.
Unfortunatley the most trusted members of the commuinty are fully aware that if the community found out pick-up could be easy and didn't require a $6000 bootcamp to master they wouldn't be able to keep selling overpriced crap.
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cranberry sauce
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I see what you're saying. I think it's easier to approach guys than gals. However, i think that talking to girls in general is easier. It's more difficult to approach them, but easier to open up and really talk. And it's the exact opposite with guys. So really the gurus are great. They allow for gents to approach the girl in a sexy manner. And after that, it's up to them. Relationship...that's something a guru can't teach. But what they do teach, is priceless.
It's good to have a wide range of perspectives on things. General philosophy, PUA, ect. But what is PUA? If you broke it down it would mostly fall under the category of social behavior..psychology. Really what it boils down to is: KNOWLEDGE IS POWER. |
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| Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:28 am Post subject: |
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SO TRUE!
I can totally relate. If your hypothesis is, true then the best is yet to come for me. Thanks! |
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Yttrium
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| Good post. You got reps for that. |
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ResCogitans
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thats true, approaching girls is more difficult, but its esier relating to them.
Personaly, I find it really hard to socialize with guys I don't know at clubs and other venues and I think working on that could really improve my game, but it's scary for me. |
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c_n12
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| Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Guys are easier to socialize with once you know them because your brain's function on a similar level but males are less prone to having full-on conversations with other guys they haven't met.
Girls on the other hand will stop on the street and talk with a stranger about anything even if it seems completely absurd.
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chi
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| Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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agreed, except for the sexist part lol
I think its just that girls are more talkative, is all. Its easy to spend time with guys but not talk to them. But in this context there is a huge difference between talking to them and taking them home. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Great point man. I totally agree...although, it's not like all guys get so confident by college...It's just that the people on the forum have really worked on their inner game and have spent lots of time studying what to say to women...you have to take that into account to. But still, it's definitely much easier to talk to girls... |
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Killians
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Ironic that you say this.
I am a girl and find it much easier to talk to guys over girls. |
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| I see what you are getting at and I have experienced some of what you say first hand but I think you're failing to take into account all those times when it's NOT easy for a man to talk to a woman. Maybe that's because the man lacks social confidence but it's such a common problem for men to have trouble talking to women that men have founded forums like this in part to address that issue. You said that the fact that there are no rules governing the interaction between men and women make is easier to interact but personally, I think I have trouble because there are no rules. You should expand upon your ideas to address all the difficulties men have dealing with women. |
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