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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Any online kino escalation guides or words of advice? Reply with quote

Does anyone have any basic words of advice on kino escalating??????????
I seem to be poor in this department. thanks
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DiCarlo Escalation ladder.

You can download the pdf for FREE here:
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Hope that helps.
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can help you, but kino escalation is learned by seeing it, words cant help you understand it.

I reccomend to watch mind of mystery DVD...the kino escalation part by Lovedrop.

serch it on pirate bay.....or buy them... whatever
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a little something I picked up when having problems with physical contact... If you seem to be uncomfortable with the physical contact she will sense this... make things natural act like thats what supposed to be happening.
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm i m kinda not comfortable with kino early in the interactions which seems to be effing up my sarges --- i have lost a few so i need to get this done. any advice guys? any good material on it
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pythonp wrote:
hmm i m kinda not comfortable with kino early in the interactions which seems to be effing up my sarges --- i have lost a few so i need to get this done. any advice guys? any good material on it


Practice practice practice. In everyday conversation with friends, co-workers, parents, brothers, mothers, blah blah blah. just work with touching people as talking to them, when emphasizing or whatever. Just make it natural. I never touched anybody while i talked to them, now it just seems natural.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about building attraction before going for kino, whats the best way to go about that, i keep going for the C\cocky funny approch and get loads of intrest etc but just cool guy not attraction, any help would be great, cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Women and men are different but in the "touch department", we all enjoy it when done with confidence and in the right context.

The key is make sure that you realize and she realizes that this is a pleasurable thing for HER and to do this, kino should also be approached with a bit of push and pull. This would be just an example:

Put your palm up confidently and as if you've just noticed, "Oh, let me see your nails." She'll offer her hand. A few seconds is all you need. Hey, grab her hand with intent. Be warm. make a stroke across her fingers with your thumb. Make a remark. Neg, compliment, whatever . . the point here is the kino and the remarks would change depending on the situation and what her nails look like, matches her outfit, when was her last manicure, etc . . .whatever.

Then you casually but gently toss her hand out. (She LOVED being touched. . .now you deny your services) And you change the topic right away into a different routine. If she goes back to the nails topic, this is an IOI worth big points. She'll say, "Yeah . . . blah, blah, nails, blah blah." You put your hand out and here she comes. This time, you reward her for a while longer. You can add a touch to the elbow. You can stare into her eyes a bit. "Yeah . . .or no, your nails, blah, blah, blah, . . ."

Oh yes. . . and you change the subject once again. Take your hand away, "Look over there, that guy's shaking that martini like a 100 times. That's cool!" (You motion the shake) bring your hand back somewhere else. Look back at her. . . By this time, you don't have to say a thing. You can talk about what ever the hell you want. Just open your hand and she'll grab it.

I'm new to this board and I've been reading some posts. First off, I've already learned a bunch from you veterans. Cool stuff . . . Secondly, I think a lot of you guys are looking for magic routines, one liners, and singular methods that you can simply copy. The routine above works. I didn't want to be too specific because I want to highlight that it's not singular "method" and a set of lines but that there are fundamental reasons for positive outcomes.

Get creative. There isn't a body part that can't be explored and touched as long as you are creative and allow the escalation some time. Whispers are great. Don't ever REACH for them. You want to whisper in her ear so you motion to her with your hands and say, "Come here, I want to tell you something. "(Like you have some great big secret) Do you know what you tell them? "Blah, blah, blah. . ." Do you want her to start breathing in your ear and get face to face with you? Instead of a "Blah, blah, blah," . . .you whisper in her ear, "Blah, blah, blah??" (Any dumb question) then you turn your ear and point to it as if you expect a "secret" answer. Hey, if she wants to be rewarded, she's going to have to give as much as she takes.

Think about it . . . knees, neck, thighs. . . knees, to knees, it's endless. . .

flash,

cocky funny's cousin is the harmless monkey comedian. If you're getting the "cool guy" attraction, then I think there's something wrong. I've always felt that cocky funny is highly sexual and doesn't leave any questions about your intentions. . . or perhaps you're too over the top like Dice Clay? How about some examples of your routine?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first of all dude cheers, exactly what im looking for, will try it 2nite

erm i dont usually use much material, just make it up as i go along, but if the convo stalls for waterver reason i use people watching, take summit sum1 is doing, mimick it etc (usually they do it to) etc

erm wot else.. (its hard to remember some times, lol)

i make little jokes about them, like not dancing, or bad dancing in a joking way not offencive n wot work they do etc (i make jokes bout wot i do 2 but always say i love it etc)

bloody hell i really cnt remember, will take a closer look 2nite n try n remember

oh if i can isolate i run the cube which always always goes well but then i moved away from the funny thing n turned slightly serious by the nature of the trick, so to go back to the funny before returning to the group is hard or doesnt work so well

cheers again m8 will post report 2moz with (hopefully) more details
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flash!! wrote:
first of all dude cheers, exactly what im looking for, will try it 2nite

erm i dont usually use much material, just make it up as i go along, but if the convo stalls for waterver reason i use people watching, take summit sum1 is doing, mimick it etc (usually they do it to) etc

erm wot else.. (its hard to remember some times, lol)

i make little jokes about them, like not dancing, or bad dancing in a joking way not offencive n wot work they do etc (i make jokes bout wot i do 2 but always say i love it etc)


Hey flash, don't take offense; I'm just trying to help. Stop what ever it is that you're doing and go back to the drawing board. I'm not a cocky funny expert by any means but I can identify the monkey comedian of a set when ever I see one. Nothing you mention could ever illicit sexual responses.

What you're doing makes people laugh at other people, about their behavior, dancing, etc . . . You've been a rated G comic act.

The point of cocky funny is to make the GIRL feel attractive, sexy, desirable, and make her laugh because your stretching social norms and raising her temp in a public environment. The point is to let her know through comedic means that you are highly attracted to her. (Making fun of innocent bystanders cannot achieve this and in fact will turn this into a LJBF situation due to your total harmless and nonsexual acts)

You sound like you're pretty quick so I'm sure once have set in your mind the effect you'd like with your routines and set some achievable goals, you're likely to come up with some great routines on your own. Have fun . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no offence taken at all, thats y im here to get better

will give it a go and see what happens

thanks again
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that the key to this is definitely, as Lithe say, practice. Practice on your mates - touch their arm to emphasise a point. The alpha has no problem touching, the beta likes the attention but doesn't do the same because he doesn't want to offend those above him.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

try playing games with her, or teasing her. but be weary while on the net. tone of voice, bodylanguage, physical contact cant be used so its difficult
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