Perfect Opener?

LAMaverick · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: Perfect Opener?

Now there are many different types of openers and within each of those types there are thousands. Some are highly successful, others aren't. What I want to know is whats been the best opener for you. And hopefully, by getting some repetition within them, we can find the perfect opener.

So just say you're opening line, any type. Its not a test but more of a search, what's the best opener?

LAMaverick · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:01 am Post subject:

Or if no ones replying, if you use the line "who lies more, guys or girls?" how successful is it?

Ultima Ratio Regum · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:02 am Post subject:

I'll help you out..

One I've used successfully is "If a gay man thinks your hot does that mean a girl will?" Perhaps strange but I can lead it right into DHV on why they would find me attractive. BUT be careful not to seem gay or boastful.

Fargo · Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject:

Ultima, that's awesome.

If it's ok by you I'm definitely using it!

ConspiracyTheory · Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:39 am Post subject:

searching for a perfect opener is searching for fools gold
after being in set for 20 minutes most girls probably couldn't even tell you how the conversation started.
just use something that will make them think a bit and get more than a one word answer and has topics that can offshoot to further conversation.
bad opener - how are you doing?
good enough opener - what do you think about the cowboy hat look? (best one someone nearby is wearing one)

IMO, the most important part of the game is the 3-5 minutes after the opener.

LAMaverick · Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:38 am Post subject:

crodaddy · Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject:

i like the good old one.. my friend and I wanna hear your advice on something...

-what type of dog to get...
-buy convertible car or not....

when she is done just neg her a lil and show DHV that usually puts you in a decent starting position

stiffler · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject:

there is no such thing as one perfect opener...
what i mean is i always come up with an opener in my head based on alot of different things like how many girls, where you are, what there eating, saying, etc/ this is the way it should be too because even if its hard for you to come up with them like that on the spot, youll gain practice and eventually it gets really easy and its much better than running memorized openers from a website or book...learn to think on your feet and anything is possible

com.solo · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 6:15 am Post subject:

For me, a useful opener is to bring a girl into a fake (or semi-real) argument with a friend.

I know it's 'old' (according to some), but I find great value in a wing. Aside from the energy and sense of backup (in case of AMOGs, etc.), the most effective use of a wing is as a neg target for you who you then bring girls into.

Both of these I have used twice and succesfully number closed all:

1.

(Wing was wearing sunglasses at night, I wasn't).

We begin to argue. I turn to girl near me.

"Hey, I need your girl thoughts on this matter. Is it lame to wear sunglasses at night?"

(f she responds "no", then I bust her for only agreeing with him for his looks, if she says "yes", then I turn to him and say "haha, you just got rejected by a GIRL!")

All in one step, I have successfully opened, lowered her value (viewing her as just "a GIRL", a random girl, another female), AMOGed the other guy (not terribly helpful, but it an be useful), and begun a conversation. It's important to make sure you and your wing are very cool with each other after this point in the conversation, else you look like losers.

2.

My wing pours some of his beer into a cup and passes it to me. I pass it along to a girl nearby who says "no, I'm about to go to the dance floor", at which point I go "haha! you just got rejected by a GIRL!" ... they both gave a WTF look to me, to which I responded "you're a girl... right?" etc.

tov · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject:

Ultima, I must say I am putting that in the back of my mind to use again tonight.

But, L.A, to me, the opener isn't the most important thing. It might just be where I am at in the game, but to me, the most important part is the transition phase. So, for my opener, I will just use anything that the girl can give me an opinion on. And before she can fully finish, I phase shift. works for me.

But the opener that I use the most, since you asked, is I walk up to a girl that isn't really engaged in the set's convo and say " Wow, it's a [insert day of the week] night, you're out with your friends, and you look like that?" Then I imitate her, but do it so overboard. I turn to her friends and ask "Is she always like this?" Then I do ask the friends party opener. Seems to work for me since I use my cocky funny to pull it off.

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