Does anyone have a solid, tested, universal opener please??

lennon

I need something to open girls with. I've tried questions and I tried this "Titanic" joke one I found on here that was tested and appeared to work but when I used it all I got were "you're lame" or "What????" or "no" or "fuck you" ,etc you get the idea. Also when you are filling out an "about me section of your profile, what do you put? Thanks-LENNON Question

Mr. Amador · Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject:

Universal opener: Hi

Dude, openers are meant to be ways to start conversation...an opener doesnt even has to be be cool, just to get the girl talking.

It can be anything...the last opener I used was

on the mall (clothing store)

Me: Hi...do you know if there is a cofee shop in this floor?

HB8: No... (holding some glasses)

Me: Whoa those are really cool glasses..for my grandma!!! here try this ones on...looks like your style (huge glittery star shaped ones)

HB8: (giggles) No way!!

See...you just have to find something to talk about, and start talking about it.

The only place canned opener are appropiate are clubs. Just read any PUA's book or look on this forum and you'll find pretty decent openers.

If you can came up with an spontaneous way to open a set...then use canned material

Remember, opening is not the important phase of PU...is just to start talking to the girls.

JonesPUA · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 1:48 pm Post subject:

Observer her and open with an state u guess she is in

PUA: are u shy, afraid, happy, wurrieng, cold, hot ...

HB: No/Yes why ...

PUA: Because u seem ... bla bla bla

bluethunder371 · Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject:

ok something i have found EXTREMELY important with any hbs over 6 is that u have to act like u dont need or want theur attention. thats why i use opnion openers, cause then they feel like "o he wants my opinion, not me, but why?" then they try to get ur attention. basically, if ur like reeaaly into the set when u open, thats an instant DLV, so act like its theuir opnion u want, not them.

mike1234 · Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: opener

Hey, I doubt there is any that works 100% of the time, because each person is different, every situation is different, and diff guys DELIVER the opener different.

Anyway, if you are at a bar/club/party (higher energy setting), this one has worked for me every time.

"wowww, I'm kinda scared right now"...(pause, look over your shoulder back at your friend(s)). "My friend just was massaging my shoulder and I'm definitely pretty freaked out right now, I think he has something he wants to tell me..." (again, look over, or even turn your back on her, don't really worry about what she's saying. Then finally turn back to her and either continue maybe adding cocky/funny.

"I mean I know I'm a hot piece of man-candy, but still... he needs to stay away" or "I mean maybe my dance moves turned him on or something, fine, fine, I'll tone down the dance moves!"

She laughs, then your in and you can either go on a little more about that (So what about you? Do you get hit on by crazy lesbians?) or go into another routine.

Like I said, this always works for me, better than any other opener I've used. But it might only work for YOU if you deliver it right. The beginning definitely needs to be delivered sincerely, as if you REALLY are kinda freaked out by your friend...this requires a little ACTING on your part. And PRACTICE this in the mirror if you have to, don't leave it up to chance.

AND it needs to be delivered in a very non-needy way, meaning you can't telegraph interest or act like you even really want to talk to her that much. Instead, you need to act like you have this on your mind, and she just happens to be someone nearby you can vent to. THIS is why I said that you look back at your friends twice, and one time even turn your back on her, while delivering this opener.

Women are very intuitive, they can see through your body language what you're really up to. So if you do this, or other openers looking like all you want is to fuck her, she'll read through it and its no wonder why an opener will fail in this case. Do this with the right delivery, non-needy body language, and energy, and you will succeed every time!

Simpua · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject:

There is no such thing as a universal opener. Nothing works well in all situations.

A lot of beginners, including myself, dwell on the opener for too long. If the opening conversation lasts more than a minute I usually cut that thread myself simply because it is not meant to be a conversation and usually gets stale fast.

Now if you are trying openers posted here that are tried and tested in the field, but having bad results, then you are probably not conveying the right body language.

-Make sure you approach a set casually. Instead of walking up to them directly, ask them over your shoulder by just turning your neck.

-Do not appear needy or nervous, as you will get blown out instantly.

-Make sure to add a FTC, both verbal and non-verbal. The difference of an FTC is like night and day.

-Throw in a neg if you can. I still have a lot of trouble with negs myself.

mHex · Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 1:30 pm Post subject:

No such thing as an opener that is universal mate.... If there was every hot girl would have 5 guys approaching her a night saying the exact same thing

SARGEnt29

I agree with most of the openers on here but its really important to practice using a situation or a setting to your advantage. i really liked the opener about your buddy massaging you haha. cocky/funny are the best openers. Then u can move immediately into something opinion related. for example: haha i am a lil freaked out but i suppose it no big deal. Whats your opinion of that? should guys be secure enough with their buddies for that to be cool? i just feel like he's hitting on me lol. then move rigfht onto to something about her clothing or her makeup or hair. A soft neg depending on her responses soo far. You wanna callibrate your body language with what your saying and with the way she is responding. The only way to get good at opening and being fluid is by speaking to every fucking girl u come into contact with. Hot or not its practice. New PUA's need to sarge often and everywhere they are. It took me six months to get to the point where i am well callibrated and do not need to think about my behavior often. There are soo many aspects to proper pickup and seduction. You need time with girls and around social places. Period. Your opener should be general, non-needy and in many cases pulled directly from who or where or what is around you.

Sevencircles · Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject:

LesPaul · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:24 pm Post subject:

situational openers are definitely better..the ones that require u to just be simple. Einstein said "the universe should be as simple as possible...but no simpler" . now, this isn't the universe but those really long canned openers wouldn't work in a real slow tempo venue unless t is something that really sounds genuine. keep the opener simple.

Head First · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:11 am Post subject:

I like using a neg about what shes wearing. Like thats a cool top Ive seen them all over and I want to get my sister one for her b-day where did you get it.

diggidoyo · Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject:

Dude... Head First... nice avatar.

Back on topic:

In the about me section don't put your life story and a list of 50 things you like. Keep it simple with hints that your a cool interesting guy that has a life outside of myspace. Personally I chose to write "Fuck 3rd person rants ABOUT ME" and left it at that. I saw no reason to explain myself where no one asked.

Sorry to hear the Myspace Titanic opener didn't work. I've gotten a few "ok... what in the hell?!" with it but most have been pretty positive. There are millions of girls on myspace so don't be hindered by a string of bad responses. There are things that YOU CANNOT control. You have no idea what was going on in her life at that moment. Or she could be dumber than a box of rocks and just plain doesn't have the sense of humor to get it. Keep trying and play around with different ones.

Also try setting your profile to private so everything you have to offer isn't readily available. And if you really need to, make a fake myspace and open that way. I'm not saying this is a good strategy and know where to draw the line... but you can protect your ego this way. Just a way to get started so you know what works and what doesn't.

Good luck!

Daywalker225xxxx

The one that always works for me is:

"What up, fool?"

another good one is:"What up, dawg?"

If she's blonde, "What up, blondie?"

and if she's a redhead,"What up, red?"(Get the pattern?)

these all work for me, but I usually have my game plan set and what I'm going to say planned out before I ever approach.

If she's tall, "Man, how tall are you?" I am 5'11", and I number closed and kissed closed a 6'1" HB just by asking her that.(Coincidentally, I told her that she couldn't wear heels unless we were in the bedroom, and she replied that if we were in the bedroom, she wouldn't be wearing anything{SCORE}!)

Some of the best openers are "Situational" like when I was waiting in line at the bank, and I just started off with this HB6(And yeah I use em' for practice, and I think everyone should too!) about how the wait was so long, but I number and e-mail closed right there on the spot in 10 minutes.(5 of which I would have had to wait anyways.)
Wink

Mr. Amador

Head First · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 2:31 am Post subject:

	Replies	Author	Views	Last Post
The Fuck Buddy - good idea or bad?	58	Paradox	7971	Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:19 pm LatinLover101
Tried it and got a #close....have no idea how it happened	8	kicdo	1785	Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:14 pm The Genie
question opener for the dance floor	18	Mad Gecko	3111	Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:35 pm Smile's
Do I have the right idea?	7	illphantasm	792	Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:27 am sorin
NorCal, bay area, have idea for double-kill pickup line.	8	BLACKHOLESUN	963	Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:04 am BIGRED

Terrible
Bad
Average
Good
Excellent

	Pick Up Artist Forum Home Page -> PUA Lounge - General Discussion	All times are GMT